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Terror, punishment and governmentSubmitted by Phil Howison on Wed, 2006-03-22 09:43.
I found this article about a group of young men in Taranaki, near where I went to school (maybe I even knew some of them). They went looking for a cannabis patch to plunder, and after some hours of searching through coastal wasteland encountered a small plantation. They were surprised by two armed men who allegedly captured two of them at gunpoint - the others escaped through gorse and blackberry - and held them for a few hours, beating and threatening them. This story sparked a few thoughts on punishment and the state. Because cannabis cultivation is illegal, most cultivators are unwilling to use legal means to punish thieves. But because of limited resources, they cannot ascertain guilt or apply an objective punishment - they can only use physical threats in an attempt to cause terror. States used to operate like that in premodern times, when deterrence was ensured by inventing ever more gruesome means of torture and execution, for example when rebellious Indian soldiers in 1857 were strapped to cannons and obliterated. I think this is a powerful argument for a state. Without a state, offenders and those suspected of offending would have no chance of receiving just punishment, and the most powerful people would be those who were prepared to inflict indiscriminate terror. The incident also serves to demonstrate the violence that results from drug prohibition.
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This comes from a Leftie
This comes from a Leftie blog I read, re the LA protests...
Employers have huge amounts of power over illegal immigrants, and the only way to change that is to say that those workers should be entitled to live here under the same conditions as everyone else.
The forces Philip identifies are at work in the labour market too. If one, monopolistic, objective, governance will not be that apparatus justice demands then chaotic substitutes will ensue (I like that sentence, alright?)
Indian Goop
I've just been reading about another prohibition tonight from which this line is extracted.."Although many of these establishments are reported as owned by Capone, closer examination shows that they have separate owners but are under the political and physical protection of Capone and his gang."
If one, monopolistic, objective, governance will not be that apparatus justice demands then chaotic substitutes will ensue. And you get Indian goop all over your nice clean cannons...